improve the depreciation depreciation -- operation of energy grids and it's wrong to shed these public employees these every day here rose -- these are the people -- cops who run to the crime scene when all of the rest of us run from it firefighters running into the burning building when we're trying to get out and we're cutting people. >> bill: isn't that a more important goal than just saying oh, we're going to balance the budget? >> that's right. and it clearly is at it clearly is to the american people. we focused on debt and deficit as though growth is the most important element. people want to work and the more people that work the lower our deficit is. >> bill: let the debate begin and at least you are coming up with some new ideas, not the same old stale ideas that we saw from paul ryan. congressman, thank to all of our friends from vermont. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ compelling true stories. >> jack, how old are you? >> nine. >> this is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. (vo) with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way insi